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in november 1961

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a secret meeting of leading government

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sponsored astronomers was held to

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estimate the number of planets in our

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own galaxy with intelligent life

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these scientists concluded that there

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are probably 40 to 50 million

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intelligent extraterrestrial

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there is ever increasing evidence that

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some of these extraterrestrial

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civilizations are visiting the earth

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[Applause]

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in the air before it began to move

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this sighting is only one of the many

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pieces of evidence the producers of this

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film will present verifying that some

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we will reveal formally classified

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secret documents which clearly

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demonstrate that the government has

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knowledge of the extraterrestrial origin

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of some ufos and is trying to keep this

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fact secret

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you will see documented evidence

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depicting the appearance of the alien

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beings who pilot these ufos and we will

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present our conclusions as to what

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purpose these alien beings have in

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visiting the earth

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while in space as command pilot on

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gemini 5 astronaut general james mcdivot

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saw an unidentified object approach his

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spacecraft and then move away when he

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tried to film it

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one astronaut who actually chased a ufo

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while a fighter pilot in germany in 1951

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is colonel gordon cooper

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one of the original seven mercury

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astronauts colonel cooper sent this

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letter to the united nations november

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9th 1978 to express his view on ufos

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i believe that these extraterrestrial

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vehicles and their crews are visiting

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this planet from other planets which

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obviously are a little more technically

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advanced than we are here on earth

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i am somewhat qualified to discuss them

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since i have been into the fringes of

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the vast areas in which they traveled

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also i did have occasion in 1951 to have

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two days of observation of many flights

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of them of different sizes flying in

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fighter formation generally from east to

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west over europe

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they were at a higher altitude than we

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could reach with our jet fighters of

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we are showing you this film at one half

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its original speed

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this unidentified flying object was

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photographed by james waters

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toward the middle of the extreme right

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of the frame you'll see a second ufo

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that appears briefly

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as we slow the film you can see that the

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now you will see the colorado film at

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its original speed

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five times in rapid succession

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this series of three polaroid pictures

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was taken by rex heflin

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the presence in the photograph of

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objects such as telephone poles whose

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size and distance can easily be measured

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makes possible a detailed analysis of

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these photos

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this analysis indicates that the disc

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shaped object was approximately 30 feet

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another picture of a similar disc shaped

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object was taken by mr emil barnea seven

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thousand miles away and three years

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later six years after that another ufo

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also remarkably similar to the one that

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mr heflin photographed was photographed

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this is an official ufo sighting report

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detailing the observation of a ufo by 10

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to 12 people for approximately 10

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minutes the sighting was reported by one

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of the witnesses

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president jimmy carter while governor of

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it could not have been a planet a star

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a professional photographer on board a

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brazilian navy ship that was

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geophysical year

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the ufo was seen by dozens of other

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witnesses on board the ship

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computer analysis of these photographs

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indicates that the ufo was a large

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saturn-shaped object a great distance

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from the camera

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photographed in other parts of brazil

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one of the most active ufo investigators

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we discovered in our research is retired

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air force lieutenant colonel wendell

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stevens

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pilot he specialized in air technical

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intelligence and the design of advanced

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aircraft he was a graduate of the army

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air corps first test pilot school and at

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the age of 20 was a project officer on

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colonel stevens is still an active pilot

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after world war ii he was assigned to an

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air base in alaska where he debriefed

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b-29 crews who frequently described

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encounters with strange circular

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aircraft my first experience with

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a ufo report personal experience that is

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said that they saw a bogey it's what

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the crews later i found out that often

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they often referred to them as as enemy

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aircraft or russian air craft but

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on radar so these clearly exceeded any

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of our capabilities in 1940s any

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capabilities of anybody in the world in

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on an average of about twice a month i

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sitting on this on the ice pack

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and this is something we couldn't do we

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didn't have any way to land up there and

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one that they saw

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water and flew away

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what they reported i never got to see

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any of it because we took the film

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formally classified letter written by

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general nathan twining was the result of

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pilots such as colonel stevens described

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concerning flying disc reports

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general twining states and we quote

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the phenomenon reported is something

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real and not visionary or fictitious

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the shape of a disc

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of such appreciable size as to appear to

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be as large as man-made aircraft

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object is as follows

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abundantly clear that the united states

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saucers and deliberately kept it a

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colonel stevens went on to tell us about

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detail and structure on it and wanted to

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i had a squadron test pilot up on a

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flight test mission with an f-100 and a

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max performance flying test

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he was climbing through 18 000 feet when

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he saw an object ahead and above him

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that looked like the goodyear blimp and

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he thought oh my god what can this be

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can't get that high

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momentarily on a thing and then he began

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to only pace it and then it speeded up

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and just walked away from him climbing

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away at a steep angle

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climbing at max speed that's the fastest

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above 33 000 feet there's no way in the

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world any blimp can get up there

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and he came back and he told me about

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this experience he was white he was

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it was a traumatic thing because he

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realized everybody would realize under

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the conditions it's something unearthly

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one of the twelve scientists to give

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evidence before the us congressional

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hearings on ufos is california nuclear

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physicist stanton friedman who spent 14

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years in private industry working

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extensively on classified government

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sponsored projects such as this nuclear

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rocket engine and other advanced space

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systems

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since 1970 is the only space scientist

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known to be devoting full time to ufos

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after 21 years of studying investigation

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i'm convinced that the evidence is

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simply overwhelming that our planet

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earth is being visited by intelligently

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controlled vehicles

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whose origin is off the earth in other

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words some ufos

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underlying the sum about 10 times are

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somebody else's spacecraft

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i'm only concerned with those ufo

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reports which indicate things of

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definite size

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shape surface texture whose behavior

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clearly indicates that they were

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manufactured somewhere other than earth

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the kind of behavior that stanton

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friedman is talking about is the ability

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to go ten thousand miles per hour in the

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atmosphere as observed on radar and make

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sharp right angle turns

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nobody on planet earth is able to

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duplicate that behavior

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the observation of ufos is by no means a

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[Music]

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listen to this account by a roman

302
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soldier written in 98 a.d

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at sunset a burning shield passed over

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the sky at rome

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it sparkled from the west and passed to

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the east

307
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the roman soldier's description of that

308
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burning shield matches very closely what

309
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was photographed in salt lake city by mr

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lauritsen in 1972

311
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on september 30th 1870 the london times

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published this article

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the object was elliptical in shape with

314
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a kind of tail

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it crossed the moon from one side to the

316
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other in half a minute

317
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this picture was taken in switzerland

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this description was written in 216 bc

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at a party east of rome a round shield

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[Music]

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another manuscript dated 1290 a.d

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recorded this ufo sighting

323
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they all rushed out into the open and

324
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behold there was an awful thing

325
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a nearly circular object of silver

326
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appearance not unlike a discus

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flying above them all

328
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it excited amongst all the greatest

329
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terror these ancient sightings are not

330
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isolated cases

331
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this modern film seems to fit another

332
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ancient account almost exactly

333
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there appeared in the sky a brilliant

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object like an iron bar

335
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long and wide as half the moon

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for 15 minutes it hovered motionless

337
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then suddenly the strange object began

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to rise in spirals and twist and ride

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like the uncoiled mainspring of a watch

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that account was written on all saints

341
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day november 1st 1461

342
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but it could almost as easily have been

343
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written describing this film

344
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taken near new zealand by a television

345
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news crew on december 31st 1978

346
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this ufo was observed by five witnesses

347
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beside the cameraman who photographed it

348
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while flying in an airplane

349
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it was also observed on two ground-based

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radar sets and on the radar in the

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airplane

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perhaps the most interesting part of the

353
00:20:29,909 --> 00:20:19,120
entire new zealand film is this

354
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during this section of the film the ufo

355
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not only changes size and shape

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dr bruce mcavee has conducted the most

357
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:48,720
thorough investigation of this ufo case

358
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he has interviewed extensively all the

359
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witnesses and has analyzed the film

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frame by frame

361
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i've concluded that the film does not

362
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show venus or jupiter it does not show

363
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meteors or mating mutton birds it does

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not show secret military maneuvers or

365
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the squid fishing fleet

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i have concluded that the film is not a

367
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hoax

368
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my investigation of this whole case

369
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:14,240
leads me to believe that the film shows

370
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a real unidentified flying object

371
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:18,400
there's a clipping service that

372
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publishes an average of 60 pages a month

373
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of ufo sighting reports gathered from

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by only occasionally reporting a ufo

375
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sighting the mass media creates the

376
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mistaken belief that ufo observations

377
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are rare and separated by years

378
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this is untrue

379
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ufo activity is a continuing phenomenon

380
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ted phillips of sedalia missouri seen

381
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here examining a ufo affected area is

382
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acknowledged as the world expert on the

383
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physical traces found at ufo landing

384
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sites

385
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mr phillips is a research associate of

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the center for ufo studies and has

387
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:34,240
conducted specialized research on the

388
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physical traces found at ufo landing

389
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:39,200
sites for the past nine years

390
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the results of his research are files on

391
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over

392
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:47,919
1480 ufo landings from 59 countries

393
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:50,559
mr phillips has personally investigated

394
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over 500 ufo sightings and visited over

395
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300 ufo landing sites

396
00:24:02,070 --> 00:23:59,360
these are soil samples taken from five

397
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:02,080
recent ufo landing sites and are fairly

398
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,400
representative of some two to three

399
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:06,720
hundred ufo landing sites that i have

400
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:09,200
personally been involved with

401
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:12,000
this is a small portion of the soil

402
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:14,960
taken from a ufo landing site in delphos

403
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:16,799
kansas

404
00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:19,679
the soil in the ufo landing ring is

405
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:22,799
extremely dehydrated and is unable to

406
00:24:25,919 --> 00:24:30,630
instead it simply floats

407
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:32,789
soil taken only a few feet away that was

408
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:36,080
not part of the ufo landing ring behaved

409
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:40,950
within a few seconds it absorbed the

410
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:48,549
besides being unable to absorb water ufo

411
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:50,880
affected soil cannot support sea

412
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:53,679
germination and plant life

413
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:56,320
soil taken a few feet away does support

414
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:58,480
normal plant growth

415
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:00,799
each of the pins in this map

416
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,600
represents a ufo landing site that has

417
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:05,520
been reported to ted phillips in the

418
00:25:08,430 --> 00:25:07,200
last eight years

419
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:08,440
there are over

420
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:12,640
150 ufo landing sites represented on

421
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:15,200
this map i've investigated a rather high

422
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:17,679
percentage of these reports personally

423
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:20,240
and have found a remarkable consistency

424
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:23,440
in size and shape uh regarding the ufo

425
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,159
scene and the ground effects resulting

426
00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:28,799
from that ufo landing

427
00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:30,799
we find imprints

428
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:33,679
left evidently by the landing gear of

429
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:36,080
the object some of these indicating

430
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:37,760
tremendous pressure

431
00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:39,039
great weight

432
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:40,159
generally

433
00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:43,039
found as three or four in number

434
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:45,039
arranged in either a triangular or

435
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:47,760
rectangular pattern we have effects on

436
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,919
witnesses such as the witnesses

437
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,840
suffering what appears to be a sunburn

438
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:53,760
effect on their face neck and hands

439
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,240
following the close approach of a ufo

440
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:58,559
extreme dryness of the nasal area

441
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:00,640
extreme dryness of the throat

442
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:02,320
i have talked with

443
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:05,120
nearly 2 000 people who have had a ufo

444
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:06,559
experience

445
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:08,400
and those people

446
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:09,840
certainly have convinced me that

447
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:12,000
something very real is going on

448
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:16,240
something real is indeed going on

449
00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:19,440
no matter how vivid a hallucination is

450
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,269
eighty percent of the descriptions of a

451
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:27,679
ufo in ted phillips files

452
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:30,640
are of a disc shaped object between 10

453
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:33,679
and 35 feet in diameter

454
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:36,320
over 400 of the landing cases in these

455
00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:39,520
files involve more than one witness

456
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:42,159
observing the ufo for longer than one

457
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:46,080
minute at a distance of less than 250

458
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,960
feet

459
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:48,880
we're talking about people

460
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,679
police officers clergymen newsmen

461
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:53,120
business people

462
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:54,880
people in all walks of life from all

463
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:57,440
parts of the country who have had real

464
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,400
ufo experiences and in many cases a very

465
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:02,000
close range

466
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:03,760
the interesting thing is that these

467
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:04,720
people

468
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,400
could witness a murder

469
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:08,480
could go into court testify to that

470
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:11,360
effect put a man away for life

471
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:13,679
and yet those same people have a ufo

472
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:15,279
experience and their testimony is no

473
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:16,559
longer valid

474
00:27:20,789 --> 00:27:19,279
that's certainly a very strange set of

475
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:20,799
double standards that we have in this

476
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:21,760
country

477
00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:35,669
another ufo investigator whose research

478
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:38,799
has convinced him that ufos are real is

479
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:42,159
colonel wendell stevens i need proof for

480
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:43,520
myself

481
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:45,039
and i

482
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,320
look for proof in everything that

483
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:48,559
happened the a number of things happened

484
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:50,480
in the in alaska that

485
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:53,200
add a lot a lot to my belief patterns

486
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:54,880
but then when i got to investigating my

487
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,240
own cases

488
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,159
and could look people in the eye and i

489
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,240
and i investigated some cases that were

490
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:02,399
profound cases

491
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:03,440
then

492
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:04,960
i became convinced that there's

493
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:07,120
something here and the something that's

494
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,520
here at least a part of something that's

495
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:11,360
here is physical

496
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:12,640
it's tangible

497
00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:14,320
it's just like the

498
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:15,679
car sitting out there in the street you

499
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:17,039
can go up and thump it

500
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:20,480
the evidence is overwhelming that indeed

501
00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:23,919
something is here and it is physical and

502
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:44,870
[Music]

503
00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:46,549
in the course of lecturing all over the

504
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:47,679
continent

505
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:49,760
i have talked now to more than 90 former

506
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:51,440
military people who have told me of

507
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,200
excellent sightings that occurred while

508
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:55,039
they were in the service and where the

509
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:57,120
data didn't go to the old project blue

510
00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:58,720
book which we were told was the only

511
00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:01,120
government group concerned with ufos but

512
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,960
instead typically went to the aerospace

513
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:04,960
defense command or the national security

514
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:07,039
agency and where the security was

515
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,120
clamped down immediately

516
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,600
now i've heard so many of these stories

517
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:13,120
that i'm either

518
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,039
having to say

519
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:18,000
that all of these people are lying

520
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:19,840
or that we're dealing with a cosmic

521
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:22,880
water game cosmic watergate is an

522
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:24,799
accurate way to describe the united

523
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:27,360
states government's official reaction to

524
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:29,360
ufos

525
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:31,600
the sharp difference between the fbi's

526
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:34,399
public statements about ufos and their

527
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,320
real actions is a good example of this

528
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:40,799
j edgar hoover wrote several letters

529
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:42,720
stating that the investigation of

530
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:45,840
unidentified flying objects is not and

531
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:47,679
never has been within the jurisdiction

532
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:49,600
of the fbi

533
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:51,760
j edgar hoover successfully kept the

534
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:56,720
fbi's ufo file secret until 1976

535
00:30:02,149 --> 00:29:59,360
when dr bruce mcabee received part of

536
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:02,159
the fbi ufo file as a result of his

537
00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:05,200
freedom of information act request

538
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:06,840
here are the documents that were

539
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:10,399
released there are over a thousand pages

540
00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:13,120
which provide information on the fbi's

541
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,039
and the air force's secret

542
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,320
investigations of ufos

543
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:20,640
this startling document was recovered

544
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,360
from the fbi's secret file

545
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:25,279
it is in j edgar hoover's own

546
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,559
handwriting

547
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,480
in response to a government request to

548
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:30,240
investigate ufos

549
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:33,440
mr hoover wrote and we quote

550
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:36,320
i would do it but before agreeing to do

551
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:39,360
it we must insist upon full access to

552
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:41,360
disks recovered

553
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,080
for instance in the la case the army

554
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:46,480
grabbed it and would not let us have it

555
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:49,039
for cursory examination

556
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:50,799
end quote

557
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:53,360
this memo clearly indicates that mr

558
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:55,919
hoover considered ufos a very serious

559
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:58,480
subject that should receive top level

560
00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:59,919
security

561
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:01,360
one of the events that may have

562
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,440
contributed to the opinions reflected in

563
00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:05,120
mr hoover's memo

564
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:08,000
is the apparent recovery of the wreckage

565
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:10,720
of a crashed ufo by the united states

566
00:31:14,110 --> 00:31:12,000
army

567
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:14,120
this happened on july 8

568
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,559
1947 and involves major jesse marcel

569
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:21,120
who was at that time the intelligence

570
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:23,679
officer at roswell new mexico army air

571
00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:26,880
force base the only atomic bomb wing in

572
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:28,399
the world

573
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:31,039
major marcel is a combat veteran who

574
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:33,600
shot down five enemy planes in world war

575
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,120
ii

576
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:37,519
a local rancher brought major marcel to

577
00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:40,640
a crash site located on a remote area of

578
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:42,159
his ranch

579
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:45,039
they were astonished to find the vast

580
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,799
amount of wreckage

581
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:48,480
one thing i was certain of being

582
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:49,600
familiar with

583
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:51,519
all our activities that it was not a

584
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:52,960
weather balloon

585
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:55,279
nor an aircraft nor a missile

586
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:57,120
it was something else which

587
00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:58,720
we didn't know what it was they were

588
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:01,279
just fragments strewn all over the area

589
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:02,799
an area about three quarters of a mile

590
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:05,279
long and several hundred feet wide

591
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:07,120
so we proceeded to pick up

592
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:08,399
the parts

593
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:11,039
a lot of it had a lot of little members

594
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:12,640
with symbols

595
00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:14,480
that to me i call them hieroglyphics

596
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:16,880
because i could not interpret them could

597
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:19,679
not be read they were just like symbols

598
00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:20,559
of

599
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:22,399
something that meant something these

600
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:24,399
little numbers could not be

601
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,080
broken

602
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:28,399
could not be burned i i even tried to

603
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:30,399
burn that would not burn

604
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:32,080
see that stuff weighs nothing it's not

605
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,760
in there thicker than tinfoil in the

606
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,279
back of cigarettes

607
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:37,200
see that's right the bend this stuff it

608
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,039
says it will not bend

609
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:40,799
it says we did all we could to bend it

610
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,720
it would not bend

611
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:44,799
since we even tried making a dead end

612
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:47,279
with a 16 pound sledgehammer

613
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:55,750
a woman working in a radio station in

614
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,240
albuquerque new mexico started to

615
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:00,960
transmit on a newswire the story of

616
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,440
major marcel's recovery of a crashed

617
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:05,440
flying saucer

618
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:07,919
the fbi interrupted that communication

619
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:09,440
with the statement

620
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:13,200
do not continue this transmission

621
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:15,519
an official army press release was put

622
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:17,919
out announcing the capture of portions

623
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:20,080
of a flying saucer

624
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:21,919
major marcel escorted the wreckage on a

625
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:25,279
b-29 to carswell air force base

626
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:27,679
the press was waiting for him

627
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:30,399
but he was told not to say anything by

628
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:33,360
his commander general raymie

629
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:34,799
the newsman saw very little that

630
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:37,440
material very small portion of it

631
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:38,960
and none of the important things like

632
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:40,720
these uh members that had these

633
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:42,960
hieroglyphics or markings on

634
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:44,720
they wanted me to tell them about it and

635
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:46,640
i couldn't say anything

636
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:48,559
and when the general came in he told me

637
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:50,720
not to say anything that he would handle

638
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:51,440
it

639
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:53,279
the reason that this story has remained

640
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,320
hidden from the public for over 30 years

641
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,559
is that general raymie released a cover

642
00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:00,720
story at that point saying that the

643
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:03,200
crashed flying saucer was really a

644
00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:04,799
weather balloon

645
00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:07,039
the press around the world accepted that

646
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:11,430
[Music]

647
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:13,839
the documented testimony of one of major

648
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:17,440
marcel's b-29 crew members reveals that

649
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:19,520
the ufo wreckage was removed from their

650
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:22,639
b-29 by armed guards and placed on

651
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:24,480
another aircraft

652
00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:26,399
this seems rather strange treatment for

653
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,639
the wreckage of a weather balloon

654
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:30,720
more than two dozen people in new mexico

655
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:33,359
associated with the ufo related events

656
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,800
of july 1947 have been interviewed

657
00:34:42,250 --> 00:34:38,399
we have verified

658
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:42,260
every statement made by jesse marcel

659
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:43,919
[Music]

660
00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:46,399
a well-respected new mexican engineer

661
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:48,879
barney barnett has reported that a

662
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:51,599
flying saucer crashed just outside of

663
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:55,919
socorro new mexico in early july 1947

664
00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,240
since this is the same date and very

665
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,720
close to the location where major marcel

666
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,280
recovered a crashed ufo it seems

667
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:06,000
probable that the crashed ufo mr barnett

668
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:08,720
reported is a larger piece of the

669
00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:11,760
crashed ufo major marcel recovered

670
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:14,720
mr barnett saw a number of dead alien

671
00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:17,599
bodies extracted from that wreckage

672
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:19,280
he was accompanied by members of an

673
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,440
archaeological expedition

674
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:23,520
a military group came along

675
00:35:29,860 --> 00:35:26,320
swore everybody to secrecy and carried

676
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:29,870
off the saucer and the dead alien bodies

677
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,310
between 1947 and 1952

678
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:40,400
there were more flying saucer sightings

679
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:48,630
this document recovered from the fbi's

680
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:50,079
secret file

681
00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:52,240
shows that during this time period there

682
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:56,240
were over 150 sightings of ufos over

683
00:36:01,910 --> 00:35:59,760
sensitive us military installations

684
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:01,920
many of these sightings fit the standard

685
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,720
disc shaped ufo description and were

686
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:06,640
reported by more than one reliable

687
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:11,109
new mexico was the state

688
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:13,760
where all post world war ii rocket shots

689
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,040
were fired

690
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:17,440
it is also the state where the first

691
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:26,069
one logical explanation for this large

692
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:28,160
number of ufo sightings

693
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:30,960
is that an alien space traveling culture

694
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:33,520
was observing the earth without making

695
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:36,240
official contact and gathering military

696
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:38,320
intelligence on the earth so that they

697
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:40,480
will be prepared for the day when we

698
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,030
the best known government responses to

699
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:53,119
the ufo question were the much

700
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:55,839
publicized u s air force's project blue

701
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:58,800
book and the condon report

702
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:00,640
in spite of the air force's public

703
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:03,119
statements to the contrary a close

704
00:37:08,990 --> 00:37:05,040
examination of the evidence in these

705
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,000
reports indicates that some ufos are

706
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:11,599
extraterrestrial spacecraft and that the

707
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,160
purpose of these reports was to act as

708
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:16,480
public relations cover-ups

709
00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:22,870
during the past 10 years i've talked

710
00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:25,119
with uh over two dozen military

711
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:27,119
personnel who have

712
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:28,800
confidentially

713
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:29,760
uh

714
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:36,400
not only landings very near or on

715
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:38,480
military installations in this country

716
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:40,480
but also cases involving physical

717
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,680
residue

718
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:43,200
in one instance

719
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:45,200
an individual assured me that he had

720
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:46,960
personally seen to the transmission of

721
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:49,440
this report to project blue book and

722
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,440
this was a report involving a landing

723
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:53,520
and quite a number of witnesses security

724
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,800
personnel

725
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:56,640
and if one is to check the blue book

726
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:57,760
files

727
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:00,640
public

728
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:02,960
those cases are not there not a single

729
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:05,920
case colonel stevens gave us a good

730
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:08,560
explanation as to why military people

731
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:11,359
and former military people do not speak

732
00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:13,760
out about their classified experiences

733
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:17,359
with ufos now when when a person

734
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:18,800
working in a

735
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:21,040
security field leaves the field

736
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,119
he's uh reminded of his oaths and he's

737
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,920
sworn not to reveal information uh

738
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,520
handled officially during the time of

739
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:29,040
his tenure in this this particular

740
00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:30,240
security thing and he's warned of the

741
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:32,160
penalties it's a ten thousand dollar

742
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:34,480
fine and ten years in prison and four in

743
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:36,400
in extreme cases forfeiture of all pay

744
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,280
and allowances do or ever to become do

745
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:41,200
and so it's hard to find people

746
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:43,119
who are not vulnerable who don't have

747
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:44,640
something to lose

748
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:46,800
by telling what happened to them

749
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:49,680
the encounter of two iranian jets with

750
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:50,960
the ufo

751
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:53,200
gives a glimpse of how the government

752
00:38:57,260 --> 00:38:56,400
really handles good quality ufo military

753
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:57,270
sightings

754
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:58,640
[Applause]

755
00:39:03,970 --> 00:39:00,720
the lead fighter tried to intercept an

756
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:03,980
extremely large bright ufo

757
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:06,560
[Music]

758
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,680
as he closed with the ufo his electrical

759
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:11,520
missile control and communication

760
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:14,720
systems malfunctioned

761
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:25,190
he turned away from the ufo and shortly

762
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:27,280
thereafter his systems began to function

763
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:33,670
the white house

764
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:36,480
the cia and several other defense

765
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:38,560
intelligence agencies received a

766
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:41,200
classified letter describing the case in

767
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:42,480
detail

768
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:44,800
this memo written by general carol h

769
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:47,119
bolender in 1969

770
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:49,760
became public in 1979

771
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,920
and revealed that reports of

772
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:54,160
unidentified flying objects which could

773
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,200
affect national security were not part

774
00:40:02,390 --> 00:39:59,760
of the blue book system

775
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:02,400
it is clear that the government regards

776
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,760
ufos as a matter of national security

777
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:07,680
because they can fly rings around our

778
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,200
conventional jets or rockets

779
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,520
the first country to be able to

780
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:16,000
duplicate the behavior of ufos could

781
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:17,920
attack any other country in the world

782
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:20,560
with absolute immunity

783
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:22,480
you see the single most important aspect

784
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:24,880
of a flying saucer from a government or

785
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:27,440
military viewpoint is its potential for

786
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:29,280
military utilization

787
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:30,560
the first country to be able to

788
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:33,119
duplicate the behavior of flying saucer

789
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:48,950
these recently released secret cia ufo

790
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:51,599
files indicate intense government

791
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:53,760
interest in the military potential of

792
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:55,599
ufos

793
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:58,560
these files establish that the cia had

794
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:00,800
agents all around the world gathering

795
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:10,390
[Music]

796
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:11,920
this interview with senator barry

797
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,800
goldwater provides an even clearer view

798
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:16,560
of the government's concern about the

799
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,119
military potential of ufos

800
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:20,960
senator goldwater was the republican

801
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:24,319
candidate for president in 1964 and is a

802
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:26,400
major general in the united states air

803
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:28,000
force reserve

804
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:31,440
we have verified the following quotes

805
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:34,319
air force navy and commercial pilots

806
00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:37,119
have revealed to me cases when a ufo

807
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:38,960
would fly near them right off the

808
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,240
plane's wing and then just zoom away at

809
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:44,480
incredible speeds

810
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:47,520
i asked general curtis lemay who for

811
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,280
years was head of the strategic air

812
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:51,680
command for permission to check into the

813
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:54,319
files and he told me

814
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:58,400
hell no and don't ask me again

815
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:00,800
i think some highly secret government

816
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:03,520
ufo investigations are going on that we

817
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:06,720
don't know about and probably never will

818
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:09,680
unless the air force discloses them

819
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:12,400
someday soon someone is going to have

820
00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:15,119
strong ufo evidence that can't be

821
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:16,880
explained away

822
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:20,000
and senator goldwater's quote

823
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,400
there is already strong evidence that

824
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:24,960
can't be explained away in senator barry

825
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,720
goldwater's own home state of arizona

826
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:30,880
the evidence revolves around an incident

827
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:32,880
that took place in the sith graves

828
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:35,200
national forest

829
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:37,280
it was in this location that a young

830
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:40,000
woodcutter named travis walton was

831
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:43,280
abducted by a ufo

832
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:45,839
the ufo was witnessed by six of his

833
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:47,599
fellow workers

834
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:50,960
at travis's home in snowflake arizona we

835
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:53,119
interviewed him and one of the witnesses

836
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,920
to the ufo mike rogers

837
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,520
there were seven of us on the way home

838
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,000
from work uh we were riding down a dirt

839
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:02,079
road and a pickup and uh

840
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:04,880
we saw an object hovering off to the

841
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:06,160
side of the road

842
00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:09,359
it was a glowing disc shaped object

843
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:10,880
it was about

844
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:16,069
it was hovering about

845
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:18,960
i'd say 15 to 20 feet off the ground i

846
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:21,200
got out of the truck and went closer i

847
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:23,119
wanted to get a closer look at it i

848
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:25,040
realized for the first time

849
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:27,680
what what he was doing and i

850
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:29,920
realized that it was dangerous i

851
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,880
expected it to you know fly away

852
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:34,400
when i got

853
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:35,920
closer

854
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:38,560
but instead when i when i got up there

855
00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:41,680
it started to move and and to make a

856
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,119
loud sound

857
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:45,200
which scared me

858
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:46,720
i yelled at him

859
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:48,319
and i told him you know get the hell

860
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:49,599
away from there

861
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,000
i raised up and turned to go and then

862
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:54,560
all of a sudden the object

863
00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:57,119
apparently

864
00:44:02,300 --> 00:43:59,839
blasted him with some sort of array or

865
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:02,310
bolt of light or something

866
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:03,599
[Music]

867
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:07,119
i felt a numbing shock

868
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,520
and lost consciousness

869
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,440
and that was the last i knew until i

870
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:13,440
woke up aboard the craft

871
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:16,720
when i saw this bright blinding light i

872
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:19,119
turned back just in time to see travis

873
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,599
flying back through the air

874
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,000
he hit the ground about 10 feet or so

875
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:26,160
from where he had been standing

876
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,599
at that point

877
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:29,520
uh with the

878
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,240
the blast that the saucer had given him

879
00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,319
it was such an incredible thing it was

880
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:36,319
just unbelievable i was in an instant

881
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:37,520
panic

882
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,520
of the guys behind me somebody says get

883
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:41,200
the hell out of here

884
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,920
so

885
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:43,680
i hit the gas

886
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:46,000
and we took off down the road

887
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:48,319
mike rogers and the other five witnesses

888
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:51,680
returned only to find travis missing

889
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:53,839
after they told their astounding story

890
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:55,280
to the police

891
00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:58,319
they came under suspicion of murder

892
00:45:02,829 --> 00:45:00,160
an intense search for travis walton

893
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:02,839
proceeded for three days using a large

894
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,760
posse dogs and helicopters

895
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:07,920
they were unable to find him or any

896
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,319
signs of where he was

897
00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:12,160
finally it was suggested that the six

898
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:15,040
witnesses take a polygraph test to

899
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:17,839
establish the truth or fallacy of their

900
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,230
we told them you know we'll take

901
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:24,800
polygraph tests we'll we'll take sodium

902
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:26,000
pentathol

903
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:27,839
hypnosis anything you can give us

904
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:30,400
because this thing really happened and

905
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:31,599
and

906
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,280
we don't like this thing about you

907
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:35,119
accusedness of murder which several of

908
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:37,680
them had openly arrangements were made

909
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:40,400
for psy gilson a highly qualified

910
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:42,560
polygraph examiner who was a member of

911
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:45,119
the arizona state polygraph association

912
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:47,280
to conduct the polygraphs on the six

913
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:49,599
witnesses to travis walton's ufo

914
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:50,880
encounter

915
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:53,359
the utmost care in administering these

916
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:55,839
lie detector tests was exercised because

917
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:58,640
the men were under suspicion of murder

918
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:01,599
once the test got underway uh

919
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:03,040
he

920
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:04,880
started changing his mind very quickly

921
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:08,800
after he tested about three of the six

922
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:11,760
he seemed to be acting differently by

923
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:14,160
the time he had tested all of us he

924
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:15,760
seemed to be a believer

925
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:18,720
i talked to him after the tests and he

926
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:20,480
indicated to me that

927
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,160
that apparently he was wrong

928
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,319
unofficially he said

929
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:29,280
that he believed that we had

930
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:31,920
told the truth because

931
00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:34,160
five of us passed the test

932
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:36,800
he wrote in his report that we had told

933
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:39,760
the truth that apparently there had been

934
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:47,670
[Music]

935
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:50,160
this was a very emotional thing for

936
00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,280
travis's family and emotional for us

937
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:55,359
travis was my best friend

938
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:57,760
and our whole lives have been disrupted

939
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:58,800
by this

940
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:00,880
we wondered if we would ever see him

941
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:03,520
again when i regained consciousness i

942
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:05,440
was laying on my back

943
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:06,800
i uh

944
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:09,119
i came too slowly

945
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:11,200
i was in a lot of pain

946
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:13,760
in my head and chest area

947
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:16,720
at first i thought i was in a hospital

948
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:18,880
but when i could finally see i i saw

949
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:21,359
these beings standing over me and

950
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:24,720
it i just became hysterical

951
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:27,440
they were about five feet tall they had

952
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:28,800
no hair

953
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:31,359
no eyelashes eyebrows

954
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:34,160
very large heads very large eyes

955
00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:37,119
the rest of their features uh nose mouth

956
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:39,599
and ears were small

957
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:42,960
and they were very white looking

958
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:45,839
i knocked them away from me

959
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:46,880
and

960
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:49,520
jumped off the table there

961
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:51,520
and

962
00:48:05,990 --> 00:47:59,190
i grabbed an object off of a bench there

963
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:07,750
they stopped

964
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:11,359
and turned around and left the room

965
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:12,319
um

966
00:48:17,190 --> 00:48:15,359
i was afraid they'd come back so i

967
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:17,200
left there

968
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:19,119
looking for a way out

969
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:20,960
i went into another room where there was

970
00:48:26,309 --> 00:48:23,760
a chair there was some kind of a

971
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:26,319
projection or some kind of a viewing

972
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,240
thing in this room where you could see a

973
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:30,000
map of stars

974
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:33,359
a man came in while i was trying to find

975
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:36,000
a way out there and this was a

976
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:38,880
human-looking person

977
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:41,440
they'd pass in a crowd this individual

978
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:43,119
and on earth

979
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:45,680
he was bigger than me taller and more

980
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,800
muscular

981
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:48,800
very large individual

982
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,599
i

983
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:51,839
went up and

984
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:54,400
tried to talk to this guy

985
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,359
and

986
00:49:01,349 --> 00:48:58,079
he didn't answer me he led me outside of

987
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:01,359
this craft that i was in which was

988
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:03,760
apparently parked inside of a large

989
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:07,520
room or a building or a larger craft and

990
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:09,760
led me out of this room into another

991
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:11,200
room where

992
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:16,570
put me unconscious

993
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,440
[Music]

994
00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:21,920
when i regained consciousness

995
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:25,280
i found myself laying on the roadway

996
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:27,520
that i saw a craft hovering there that

997
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:29,520
just sat there for a second and just

998
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:32,480
shot straight up

999
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,559
that's the last i've seen him

1000
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:36,960
i ran down into the town there and

1001
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:38,559
called my family and they came and got

1002
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:39,359
me

1003
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:41,280
when i did hear that he had been

1004
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:42,880
returned

1005
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:44,800
it was almost as unbelievable as the

1006
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:46,880
original thing because he'd been gone so

1007
00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:47,280
long

1008
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:49,119
[Music]

1009
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,280
one of the biggest shocks i had to deal

1010
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:53,599
with when i was returned was finding out

1011
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:56,400
that this brief period of time had

1012
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:02,790
when i found out i've been gone for that

1013
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:05,440
long it was it was

1014
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:09,119
just you know blew me away my my brother

1015
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:11,119
you know told me about it

1016
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:13,280
and i was stunned and he asked me to

1017
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:15,119
feel my face and i'd had a i had a you

1018
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,040
know a week's growth

1019
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:19,680
i was really took my mind just to reel

1020
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:21,119
at that because

1021
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:23,359
as far as i knew it was the same night

1022
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:26,480
the thing that bothered me most about

1023
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:33,270
when they looked at me they just

1024
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:35,119
seemed like they were looking right

1025
00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:40,230
you just can't understand how it would

1026
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:41,599
be if it were

1027
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:51,750
after his return

1028
00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:54,480
travis walton also passed a polygraph

1029
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:55,359
test

1030
00:51:01,109 --> 00:50:59,040
verifying the truth of his ufo

1031
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:01,119
experience

1032
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:03,440
to obtain an expert opinion on what

1033
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:05,200
conclusions could be drawn from the

1034
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:07,599
polygraph tests in the travis walton

1035
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:08,640
case

1036
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:11,680
we interviewed edward gelb president of

1037
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:15,440
the american polygraph association

1038
00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:17,280
hundreds of police departments and

1039
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:19,599
corporations throughout the world

1040
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:22,559
utilize the polygraph to separate truth

1041
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:24,319
from deception

1042
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:27,119
the 94 percent accuracy of the polygraph

1043
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,440
has been well documented not only in

1044
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:31,680
real life situations as we've discussed

1045
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,640
here

1046
00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:34,800
but in laboratory and university studies

1047
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:36,559
that have been conducted throughout the

1048
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:37,520
world

1049
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:40,720
the odds against six people successfully

1050
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:43,920
deceiving a trained polygraph examiner

1051
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,200
on a single issue are over a million to

1052
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:48,960
one

1053
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:50,880
the polygraph evidence in the travis

1054
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:53,520
walton case is strong enough to stand as

1055
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:01,670
in order to understand where the beings

1056
00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:03,599
that kidnapped travis walton may have

1057
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:06,880
originated we must first understand our

1058
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:13,510
our sun is only one of over a hundred

1059
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:16,800
and fifty billion stars in our galaxy

1060
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:22,470
there are billions and billions of

1061
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:30,630
if only one star in every million has

1062
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,520
planets that can support life

1063
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:35,680
then there are hundreds of billions of

1064
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:39,119
life-supporting planets in the universe

1065
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:42,000
within 55 light years of our own solar

1066
00:52:54,069 --> 00:52:51,430
46 of these near neighbors are similar

1067
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:54,079
to the sun and can be expected to have

1068
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:56,000
planets and life

1069
00:53:02,150 --> 00:52:59,200
especially if colonization and migration

1070
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:02,160
have been going on for part of their 10

1071
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:04,240
billion year lives

1072
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:06,079
[Music]

1073
00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:08,880
by examining our own advanced technology

1074
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:11,599
closely we can get some indications as

1075
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:14,319
to how the ufo that kidnapped travis

1076
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:17,040
walton may have been propelled and how

1077
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:18,720
it could have traveled through space to

1078
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:23,510
the technology to travel to nearby stars

1079
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:27,119
in our own galaxy now exists just as the

1080
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:29,200
basic technology to go to the moon

1081
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:32,880
existed shortly after world war ii

1082
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:35,200
technological progress is the result of

1083
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:38,400
inventing new systems and not perfecting

1084
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,160
old ones

1085
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:43,200
we cross the atlantic ocean 100 times

1086
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,319
faster now than 200 years ago not

1087
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:48,480
because we've got boats that go 100

1088
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:51,440
times faster but because we now have jet

1089
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:53,440
airliners

1090
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:58,000
but 200 years ago they would have

1091
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:01,920
sounded like the wildest kind of fantasy

1092
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:04,319
it took magellan two years to sail

1093
00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:05,920
around the planet

1094
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:08,720
and it only takes a modern astronaut 90

1095
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:17,430
the apollo project not only proved that

1096
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:19,760
it was possible for mankind to leave the

1097
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:21,760
earth and visit our nearest neighbor in

1098
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:23,599
space the moon

1099
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:25,119
it revealed that even the most

1100
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,520
prestigious scientists often

1101
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:29,680
underestimate the ability of human

1102
00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:31,440
ingenuity to accomplish what is

1103
00:54:35,589 --> 00:54:33,760
considered impossible

1104
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:35,599
in 1957

1105
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:37,920
lee de forest the inventor of the vacuum

1106
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:40,880
tube and father of modern electronics

1107
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:42,640
stated that no matter what the

1108
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:45,119
inventions of the future man would never

1109
00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:47,440
land on the moon and bring back samples

1110
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:48,960
to earth

1111
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,680
just 12 years after that millions of

1112
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:53,520
people on the earth were able to watch

1113
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:55,839
the first moon landing on television as

1114
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:03,109
when trying to understand ufos it is

1115
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:04,960
important to be careful about using the

1116
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:07,280
word impossible because the history of

1117
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:09,200
our own technology shows that

1118
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,119
intelligent beings have a habit of

1119
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:13,440
accomplishing what was once considered

1120
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,630
today some people consider it impossible

1121
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,640
to travel the vast distances between

1122
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:21,839
stars

1123
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:24,000
the state of current technology already

1124
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:26,640
indicates that their ideas will soon be

1125
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:29,760
as obsolete as mr deforest's statement

1126
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,720
that man would never land on the moon

1127
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:34,799
we could build nuclear-powered starships

1128
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:37,040
that could travel in space just the way

1129
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:43,270
these starships could travel to nearby

1130
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:46,079
stars and return within the lifetime of

1131
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:47,440
a man

1132
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:49,760
they would be powered by nuclear fusion

1133
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,079
the energy source of the sun and the

1134
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:54,000
same nuclear process used in the

1135
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:01,990
an advanced starship capable of

1136
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:04,240
traveling close to the speed of light

1137
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,160
could take advantage of einstein's law

1138
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:08,160
of relativity which has now been

1139
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:11,200
experimentally verified

1140
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,960
as the spaceship approached the speed of

1141
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:15,040
light the objects that they approach

1142
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:17,520
would take on a red glow

1143
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:19,359
time would begin to slow down for the

1144
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:20,880
crew

1145
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:22,680
when they reached

1146
00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:25,520
99.999 percent of the speed of light

1147
00:56:31,540 --> 00:56:28,160
they could travel to a star 37 light

1148
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:31,550
years away in just two months pilot time

1149
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:32,640
[Music]

1150
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:34,160
the people that they left behind would

1151
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:36,960
be 37 years older but the crew of this

1152
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:44,150
the space shuttle will be able to lift

1153
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:47,280
portions of a giant nuclear fission or

1154
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:49,520
fusion rocket into orbit around the

1155
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:51,599
earth where it could be assembled from

1156
00:57:00,510 --> 00:56:53,599
there it could be launched to other

1157
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:05,910
[Music]

1158
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:08,079
the space shuttle will also be used to

1159
00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:19,190
astronauts have already stayed in space

1160
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:21,200
for five months

1161
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:23,520
we are rapidly approaching a time when

1162
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:25,760
they will be a permanent space colony

1163
00:57:29,460 --> 00:57:27,920
and there will always be earthlings in

1164
00:57:35,850 --> 00:57:29,470
space

1165
00:57:35,860 --> 00:57:44,140
[Applause]

1166
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:44,260
[Music]

1167
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:47,170
[Applause]

1168
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:51,520
[Music]

1169
00:57:56,789 --> 00:57:54,319
our civilization on earth is destined to

1170
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:56,799
become a space traveling culture and our

1171
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,799
space age is less than 25 years old

1172
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:02,640
who could possibly estimate the

1173
00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:04,799
technological limits of a space

1174
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:07,040
traveling culture that is a billion

1175
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:14,630
this ufo caused severe static on the

1176
00:58:21,580 --> 00:58:16,799
photographer's transistor radio as it

1177
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:26,710
[Music]

1178
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:29,040
reports of ufos causing magnetic

1179
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:31,359
disturbance such as the interruption of

1180
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:33,839
television and radio transmissions and

1181
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:35,760
interference with the electrical systems

1182
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:38,319
of cars are common

1183
00:58:43,750 --> 00:58:40,799
this electrical interference strongly

1184
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:43,760
suggests that at least one ufo

1185
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:46,160
atmospheric propulsion system is based

1186
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:48,799
on some kind of electromagnetic

1187
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:50,799
propulsion

1188
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:52,400
the first successful test of an

1189
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:54,160
electromagnetic propulsion system was

1190
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,359
conducted on earth in 1966 when this

1191
00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:59,359
electromagnetic submarine was first

1192
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:00,880
demonstrated

1193
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:03,680
it cost only two thousand dollars to

1194
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:05,440
build

1195
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:08,000
its homemade look is reminiscent of the

1196
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:13,910
it clearly demonstrates the potential

1197
00:59:17,829 --> 00:59:15,839
for magnetic propulsion

1198
00:59:19,630 --> 00:59:17,839
this electromagnetic submarine moves

1199
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:19,640
through the water as a result of

1200
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:22,960
electromagnetic forces

1201
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:27,520
it has absolutely no moving parts

1202
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:29,760
ionized air is an electrically

1203
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:34,079
conductive substance just like seawater

1204
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:36,000
this film was taken from a space capsule

1205
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:37,760
returning to earth

1206
00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:41,040
it shows air ionized by the extreme heat

1207
00:59:44,950 --> 00:59:42,720
of reentry

1208
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:44,960
the glowing ionized air seen around the

1209
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:47,520
space capsule is very similar to the

1210
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:50,240
glowing effect photographed around ufos

1211
01:00:01,190 --> 00:59:58,950
[Music]

1212
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:01,200
ufos may be propelled by some sort of

1213
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:04,000
advanced electromagnetic system that is

1214
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:06,559
foreshadowed by this primitive submarine

1215
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:09,359
just as goddard's rockets foreshadowed

1216
01:00:23,109 --> 01:00:20,630
the travis walton case is not the only

1217
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:23,119
well-documented instance of a person

1218
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:26,400
being abducted by a ufo

1219
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:41,430
[Music]

1220
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:43,920
perhaps the best known abduction of all

1221
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:46,319
and one of the earliest reported is the

1222
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:48,000
abduction of a well-respected new

1223
01:00:55,109 --> 01:00:51,599
england couple betty and barney hill

1224
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:55,119
barney hill died in february of 1969

1225
01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:57,760
eight years after their ufo experience

1226
01:01:01,270 --> 01:00:59,920
on september twentieth nineteen sixty

1227
01:01:03,109 --> 01:01:01,280
one

1228
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:03,119
their experience has been described in a

1229
01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:06,880
book the interrupted journey and a movie

1230
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:10,400
the ufo incident

1231
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:12,720
betty and barney hill were driving along

1232
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:14,720
a deserted road at two o'clock in the

1233
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:16,400
morning on their way to their new

1234
01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:18,880
hampshire home from montreal

1235
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:21,520
suddenly we began to see a strange light

1236
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:22,720
in the sky

1237
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:25,839
which was maneuvering in a very erratic

1238
01:01:30,069 --> 01:01:27,119
pattern

1239
01:01:32,789 --> 01:01:30,079
this light began dr flying along beside

1240
01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:32,799
us and did this for about 30 miles until

1241
01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:36,000
we came to an area known as indian head

1242
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:38,480
and at that place this light left the

1243
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:40,079
top of the mountain

1244
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:42,640
came out over the highway and stopped in

1245
01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:45,359
midair directly in front of us

1246
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:47,200
bonnie

1247
01:01:50,549 --> 01:01:48,400
jumped out of the cab with the

1248
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:50,559
binoculars in an attempt to try to

1249
01:01:54,069 --> 01:01:52,480
identify this craft

1250
01:01:56,069 --> 01:01:54,079
because this was we knew nothing about

1251
01:01:58,470 --> 01:01:56,079
ufos at the time

1252
01:02:00,549 --> 01:01:58,480
bonnie walked towards that looking up

1253
01:02:03,430 --> 01:02:00,559
through the binoculars and he could see

1254
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:03,440
a red light on each side and figures

1255
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:05,440
standing behind the double row of

1256
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:06,640
windows

1257
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:09,039
he panicked and he ran back to the car

1258
01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:11,440
saying they planned to capture us we had

1259
01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:13,200
to get out of there

1260
01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:15,599
and we went speeding down the highway

1261
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:17,440
and at that point we heard beeping

1262
01:02:23,670 --> 01:02:20,720
sounds and the car vibrated now when we

1263
01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:23,680
arrived home we had many puzzles

1264
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:26,240
tops of barney's shoes were scuffed our

1265
01:02:30,549 --> 01:02:28,640
watches had stopped functioning there

1266
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:30,559
were highly polished spots in the trunk

1267
01:02:36,069 --> 01:02:33,200
of the car but the biggest mystery of

1268
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:36,079
all was the fact that it had taken us

1269
01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:40,319
seven hours to drive 190 miles the hills

1270
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:42,559
reported their sighting of a ufo to

1271
01:02:47,829 --> 01:02:45,280
nearby pease air force base

1272
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:47,839
for fear of ridicule they left out their

1273
01:02:52,789 --> 01:02:50,720
observation of alien beings

1274
01:02:55,029 --> 01:02:52,799
during the next two years betty hill was

1275
01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:55,039
haunted by nightmares and barney

1276
01:02:59,430 --> 01:02:57,920
developed a debilitating ulcer

1277
01:03:01,349 --> 01:02:59,440
fearing that the ulcer and nightmares

1278
01:03:04,309 --> 01:03:01,359
were rooted in the two hours of lost

1279
01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:04,319
time the hill sought the help of dr

1280
01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:05,839
benjamin simon

1281
01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:08,880
a psychiatrist and expert in regressive

1282
01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:10,400
hypnosis

1283
01:03:15,670 --> 01:03:14,319
sessions with each of the hills

1284
01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:15,680
separately

1285
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:17,680
he would induce amnesia in each of the

1286
01:03:22,150 --> 01:03:20,079
hills after every session to make sure

1287
01:03:25,029 --> 01:03:22,160
they couldn't discuss or exchange

1288
01:03:27,829 --> 01:03:25,039
information about what they remembered

1289
01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:27,839
after three months a clear picture of

1290
01:03:32,789 --> 01:03:30,559
their abduction emerged and barney's

1291
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:32,799
ulcer had been cured

1292
01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:36,000
at that point dr simon played for them a

1293
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:38,880
composite tape of all of the sessions

1294
01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:41,280
and the hills found out the truth about

1295
01:03:46,069 --> 01:03:44,079
the two missing ours

1296
01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:46,079
it was at this point

1297
01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:48,400
the beings that had been on the craft

1298
01:03:53,029 --> 01:03:50,000
were now standing in the middle of the

1299
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:53,039
road a dirt road blocking our way

1300
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:55,680
the cow motor stalled

1301
01:04:01,270 --> 01:03:58,480
they separated came up onto each side

1302
01:04:03,510 --> 01:04:01,280
took us out of the car and at that point

1303
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:03,520
i realized that they undoubtedly planned

1304
01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:05,440
to take us on board

1305
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:08,960
and that even increased my fears so that

1306
01:04:13,589 --> 01:04:11,440
actually by the time we had arrived at

1307
01:04:17,589 --> 01:04:13,599
the craft i was fighting

1308
01:04:19,510 --> 01:04:17,599
when i was in a panic they just held me

1309
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:19,520
after mrs hill's examination by the

1310
01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:21,839
aliens had been completed she had an

1311
01:04:25,349 --> 01:04:23,839
opportunity to speak with the leader of

1312
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:25,359
the aliens

1313
01:04:29,750 --> 01:04:27,440
when i asked the leader where he was

1314
01:04:30,789 --> 01:04:29,760
from i said i know you're not from this

1315
01:04:33,589 --> 01:04:30,799
planet

1316
01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:33,599
and this is when i saw the star map it

1317
01:04:39,029 --> 01:04:36,160
looked almost like i was looking out a

1318
01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:39,039
window it had dimension to it it was

1319
01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:41,440
about three or four feet long and about

1320
01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:43,680
two feet high there are all these balls

1321
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:45,039
of light in it

1322
01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:47,359
and the leader explained to me that the

1323
01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:50,079
heavy lines the places they go all the

1324
01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:52,960
time are frequently the broken lines

1325
01:05:00,069 --> 01:04:56,559
were expeditions he asked me if i knew

1326
01:05:03,029 --> 01:05:00,079
where i was on the map i told him no

1327
01:05:07,029 --> 01:05:03,039
that i knew nothing about astronomy

1328
01:05:09,190 --> 01:05:07,039
and so he said if i did not know

1329
01:05:12,069 --> 01:05:09,200
where i was on the map then there was no

1330
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:12,079
point of trying to explain it to me

1331
01:05:14,549 --> 01:05:13,520
i just didn't have the necessary

1332
01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:14,559
knowledge

1333
01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:16,559
betty drew the star map she had seen on

1334
01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:18,640
board the spacecraft and it appeared in

1335
01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:20,480
her book

1336
01:05:24,309 --> 01:05:22,640
because there was no indication of which

1337
01:05:26,069 --> 01:05:24,319
star was the sun

1338
01:05:28,470 --> 01:05:26,079
the best way that this map could be

1339
01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:28,480
interpreted would be to build a large

1340
01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:30,559
three-dimensional model of the sun and

1341
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:33,280
all the stars near the sun

1342
01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:35,680
the one person who decided to take on

1343
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:38,880
this difficult task was marjory fish

1344
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:41,280
when i first started i expected to find

1345
01:05:45,109 --> 01:05:42,160
many

1346
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:45,119
similar patterns to betty's drawing but

1347
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:47,520
exactly the opposite happened

1348
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:49,680
because of the peculiar spacing of the

1349
01:05:53,910 --> 01:05:51,440
stars near the sun

1350
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:53,920
it was impossible for marjory fish to

1351
01:05:58,470 --> 01:05:56,319
find a match of more than four or five

1352
01:05:59,670 --> 01:05:58,480
of the twelve pattern stars in the star

1353
01:06:02,150 --> 01:05:59,680
map

1354
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:02,160
then she began to focus on the stars

1355
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:04,720
that were most like the sun and most

1356
01:06:10,309 --> 01:06:07,839
likely to have planets and life

1357
01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:10,319
finally only the very best stars for

1358
01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:12,240
life were left

1359
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:14,720
when that happened i had a nine point

1360
01:06:17,349 --> 01:06:15,680
match

1361
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:17,359
in 1969

1362
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:20,240
a new star catalog came out giving more

1363
01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:23,280
accurate distances between stars

1364
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:25,760
marjorie made a new model based on those

1365
01:06:32,069 --> 01:06:29,200
distances and disregarded all stars

1366
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:32,079
except the ones most likely to have

1367
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:34,240
planets and life

1368
01:06:38,950 --> 01:06:36,000
the whole pattern stood out including

1369
01:06:41,750 --> 01:06:38,960
three background stars this was a very

1370
01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:41,760
very exciting thing for me the 15-point

1371
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:44,000
match achieved by marjory fish of the

1372
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:46,960
betty hill star map is unique and goes

1373
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:49,520
far beyond the laws of chance

1374
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:51,280
despite the fact that marjorie fish

1375
01:06:54,630 --> 01:06:52,640
tried thousands of different

1376
01:06:57,349 --> 01:06:54,640
combinations of stars to try to match

1377
01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:57,359
betty's pattern she was able to find one

1378
01:07:01,589 --> 01:06:59,599
and only one pattern that matched angle

1379
01:07:03,589 --> 01:07:01,599
for angle line length for line length

1380
01:07:05,430 --> 01:07:03,599
what betty had drawn

1381
01:07:07,109 --> 01:07:05,440
the star pattern makes sense from

1382
01:07:10,710 --> 01:07:07,119
nearest star to nearest star to near a

1383
01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:10,720
star the sun is part of the pattern

1384
01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:13,359
quite remarkably every one of the stars

1385
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:15,520
in the pattern is the right kind for

1386
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:16,960
planets in life

1387
01:07:21,990 --> 01:07:18,720
and all of the right kind of stars for

1388
01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:22,000
planets in life in this volume of space

1389
01:07:25,990 --> 01:07:23,920
are part of the pattern the chance of

1390
01:07:28,069 --> 01:07:26,000
that happening by accident all the right

1391
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:28,079
kind and only the right kind for pattern

1392
01:07:31,589 --> 01:07:29,039
stars

1393
01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:31,599
is one in several thousand

1394
01:07:36,870 --> 01:07:33,839
perhaps most remarkably this work tells

1395
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:36,880
us where one set of visitors originates

1396
01:07:42,549 --> 01:07:39,599
the base stars zeta one and zeta two

1397
01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:42,559
reticuli are a very special pair of

1398
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:44,000
stars

1399
01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:47,039
zeta 1 and zeta 2 reticuli are the

1400
01:07:51,589 --> 01:07:49,280
closest to each other pair of stars

1401
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:51,599
suitable for planets and life in our

1402
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:53,760
entire neighborhood

1403
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:55,520
instead of being isolated from their

1404
01:08:00,230 --> 01:07:57,520
neighbors as we are

1405
01:08:02,549 --> 01:08:00,240
zeta one and zeta two are a hundred

1406
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:02,559
times closer to each other than we are

1407
01:08:06,549 --> 01:08:04,480
to our nearest neighbor

1408
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:06,559
it would not be surprising if space

1409
01:08:11,029 --> 01:08:08,720
travel developed earlier between such

1410
01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:11,039
close neighbors

1411
01:08:15,829 --> 01:08:13,359
zeta one and two reticuli

1412
01:08:16,709 --> 01:08:15,839
are over a billion years older than

1413
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:16,719
earth

1414
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:19,440
clearly giving any beings living there a

1415
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:22,880
long evolutionary head start on us

1416
01:08:27,669 --> 01:08:25,279
we went to ohio state university to get

1417
01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:27,679
an expert opinion about the validity of

1418
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:31,199
marjory fish's star map work

1419
01:08:35,669 --> 01:08:33,120
professor walter mitchell has been a

1420
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:35,679
professional astronomer for over 20

1421
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:37,199
years

1422
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:38,640
it took me

1423
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:40,400
quite a long time to gain a full

1424
01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:42,159
appreciation for the work of marjory

1425
01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:44,319
fish but uh it's become apparent over

1426
01:08:48,070 --> 01:08:45,920
the years that

1427
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:48,080
first of all the work is without

1428
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:51,040
question accurate the proven validity of

1429
01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:54,000
her star map enormously increases the

1430
01:08:59,189 --> 01:08:56,560
credibility of the remainder of mrs

1431
01:09:02,070 --> 01:08:59,199
hill's story i was taken into the first

1432
01:09:03,910 --> 01:09:02,080
room barney into the second room

1433
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:03,920
where we were given

1434
01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:06,799
as the leader as i call him

1435
01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:07,920
gave us

1436
01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:09,120
testing

1437
01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:11,839
they were loving beings and for purposes

1438
01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:14,400
of identification nicole won the leader

1439
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:15,920
because he seemed to be in charge of the

1440
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:18,480
project of doing this testing and he was

1441
01:09:23,110 --> 01:09:20,799
the only one who spoke english

1442
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:23,120
then there was the examiner who did the

1443
01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:24,239
testing

1444
01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:25,839
and then there were nine others we

1445
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:27,679
called crew members

1446
01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:29,600
they stayed outside the room in the

1447
01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:32,239
corridor our examinations are very much

1448
01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:35,040
similar in that with both bonnie and i

1449
01:09:41,829 --> 01:09:39,440
they checked our eyes ears nose throat

1450
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:41,839
took samples of our hair

1451
01:09:46,070 --> 01:09:44,960
fingernail and they scraped their skin

1452
01:09:49,269 --> 01:09:46,080
with me

1453
01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:49,279
they touched my body with little points

1454
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:50,560
on wires

1455
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:52,080
they said he was checking my nervous

1456
01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:53,520
system

1457
01:09:59,189 --> 01:09:56,159
and then they attempted to insert a

1458
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:59,199
needle-like instrument in my navel

1459
01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:00,800
i objected that it would hurt and he

1460
01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:02,400
said it shouldn't hurt

1461
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:04,239
when he did this it caused a great deal

1462
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:05,360
of pain

1463
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:07,280
he said it was a pregnancy test and i

1464
01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:10,080
said well that's no pregnancy test here

1465
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:12,239
betty hill was right

1466
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:15,679
in 1961 there was no pregnancy test like

1467
01:10:21,070 --> 01:10:18,159
that here on earth but in the early

1468
01:10:24,229 --> 01:10:21,080
1970s two techniques

1469
01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:24,239
amniocentesis and laparoscopy have both

1470
01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:26,960
come into wide usage

1471
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:28,719
both are techniques that provide

1472
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:30,480
information about pregnancy

1473
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:32,880
and bear a striking resemblance to the

1474
01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:40,149
it's difficult to imagine betty hill

1475
01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:42,880
inventing medical techniques that did

1476
01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:46,080
not yet exist on earth unless her ufo

1477
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:49,760
experience actually occurred

1478
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:52,320
when the alien leader saw the pain that

1479
01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:54,880
betty was experiencing he put his hand

1480
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:56,080
on her head

1481
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:58,400
and the pain went away

1482
01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:00,159
at this point

1483
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:02,800
the examiner came running back into the

1484
01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:04,880
room and opened my mouth and started

1485
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:07,040
tugging at my teeth

1486
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:09,360
and i said to the leader what is he

1487
01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:10,320
doing

1488
01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:11,360
and he said

1489
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:13,600
we're very very puzzled

1490
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:16,159
why are barney's teeth removable and

1491
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:18,640
yours are not

1492
01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:20,960
at that point we left the craft

1493
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:23,120
and went back to the car and we stood

1494
01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:24,719
there by the cat and we watched the

1495
01:11:32,470 --> 01:11:27,600
craft leave we saw it become surrounded

1496
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:32,480
by a fiery revolving mass of some kind

1497
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:34,800
we could see the ufo in the middle of

1498
01:11:38,070 --> 01:11:35,840
this

1499
01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:38,080
and it lifted up dipped down went right

1500
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:40,800
straight up and was gone i received a

1501
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:43,520
copy of the radar report from peace air

1502
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:44,960
force base

1503
01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:47,040
where they had tracked an unidentified

1504
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:48,080
craft

1505
01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:50,800
at 2 14 a.m

1506
01:11:56,149 --> 01:11:52,880
in the about the time just about the

1507
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:56,159
time we estimate that the ufo left

1508
01:12:00,709 --> 01:11:59,040
we went back and we found the spot where

1509
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:00,719
we were captured

1510
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:02,800
it was not a fantasy

1511
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:05,280
it was a real experience

1512
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:07,679
and i believe that i have enough

1513
01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:10,480
evidence to establish that i first met

1514
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:13,600
betty and barney hill in november 1968.

1515
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:15,360
i've spent a great deal of time since

1516
01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:18,320
then investigating their abduction

1517
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:20,400
i've talked to dr benjamin simon about

1518
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:22,480
his hypnosis sessions

1519
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,920
i've listened to the tapes of those

1520
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:25,199
sessions

1521
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:27,120
and i've looked at marjory fish's star

1522
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:29,760
map work in great depth

1523
01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:31,520
it seems clear to me

1524
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:33,520
that betty and barney hill were taken on

1525
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:35,360
board a flying saucer in new hampshire

1526
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:37,199
in 1961.

1527
01:12:42,470 --> 01:12:40,480
the story must be taken at face value

1528
01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:42,480
it's true

1529
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:44,560
i think for a long long time i had the

1530
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:46,800
feeling that i had sort of lived through

1531
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:49,040
a tragedy in some way

1532
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:51,040
and sometimes even now i still have this

1533
01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:53,440
feeling because it's something that's

1534
01:12:58,709 --> 01:12:55,360
haunting

1535
01:13:01,510 --> 01:12:58,719
is something that's always on my mind

1536
01:13:03,669 --> 01:13:01,520
no matter where i go or what i do

1537
01:13:06,390 --> 01:13:03,679
because i do lead a very active life and

1538
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:06,400
i have many many interests but always

1539
01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:08,640
that's on the back of my mind it's the

1540
01:13:12,630 --> 01:13:10,560
last thing i think of when i go to bed

1541
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:12,640
at night and it's the first thing that i

1542
01:13:16,830 --> 01:13:16,000
think of in the morning when i wake up

1543
01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:16,840
and

1544
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:19,280
uh i expect it'll probably be that way

1545
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:21,920
for the rest of my life

1546
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:24,320
ted phillips research into ufo landing

1547
01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:27,679
sites revealed amazing information as to

1548
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:30,000
the frequency with which alien beings

1549
01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:32,719
have been observed visiting the earth

1550
01:13:36,070 --> 01:13:34,480
you find a surprising number of

1551
01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:36,080
instances in which humanoids are

1552
01:13:40,229 --> 01:13:37,600
reported

1553
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:40,239
near the landed ufo

1554
01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:43,840
some 22 percent or 325 cases

1555
01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:45,679
involve humanoids

1556
01:13:50,709 --> 01:13:48,480
generally described as small in size

1557
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:50,719
kind of pale gray skin

1558
01:13:55,910 --> 01:13:52,800
little if any hair

1559
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:55,920
wide set quite prominent eyes

1560
01:14:00,950 --> 01:13:58,080
thin spindly bodies

1561
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,960
slightly enlarged heads and wearing

1562
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:02,960
tight-fitting diver's suit as it is

1563
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:05,360
generally described in over 50 of the

1564
01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:06,719
cases

1565
01:14:10,870 --> 01:14:08,640
there were found small footprints

1566
01:14:14,229 --> 01:14:10,880
correlating of course with the small

1567
01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:14,239
humanoid scene dr leo sprinkle a state

1568
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:17,199
psychologist who has examined 20 ufo

1569
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:19,920
abductees says that they are absolutely

1570
01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:24,000
sane responsible people of great courage

1571
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:26,239
he could find no mental aberration in

1572
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:28,560
any of the people that he examined

1573
01:14:32,630 --> 01:14:30,560
people who took the trouble to talk to

1574
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:32,640
me and investigate the thing

1575
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:34,640
saw that it you know obviously must have

1576
01:14:38,630 --> 01:14:36,719
happened just as we reported it

1577
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:38,640
the overwhelming picture that emerges

1578
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:41,679
from ufo abductions is that the alien

1579
01:14:46,870 --> 01:14:44,000
beings are examining and studying

1580
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:46,880
earthlings much the way that we examine

1581
01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:56,390
dr james harder

1582
01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:58,320
is a professor of civil engineering at

1583
01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:01,040
the university of california at berkeley

1584
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:03,199
we visited him at his home

1585
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:04,960
professor harder is one of the leading

1586
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:07,360
experts in the world concerning ufo

1587
01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:08,560
abduction

1588
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:10,880
he is hypnotized both betty hill and

1589
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:12,400
travis walton

1590
01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:15,040
he was also one of the 12 scientists to

1591
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:17,760
present overwhelming evidence at the u.s

1592
01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:19,920
congressional hearings indicating that

1593
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:23,120
some ufos are extraterrestrial

1594
01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:24,480
spacecraft

1595
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:26,719
professor harter has used hypnosis to

1596
01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:28,800
aid hundreds of people in remembering

1597
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:31,920
the details of their ufo experiences and

1598
01:15:36,790 --> 01:15:34,480
believes that much of our confusion in

1599
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:36,800
dealing with a large number of ufo

1600
01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:39,600
abduction reports stems from the fact

1601
01:15:45,669 --> 01:15:41,840
that there are many different alien

1602
01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:49,910
one of these ufo abductees is pat roach

1603
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:51,760
she and her daughter were apparently

1604
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:54,480
abducted by alien beings on a flying

1605
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:56,880
saucer that landed near their home in

1606
01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:58,080
utah

1607
01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:01,199
visualize just what's in front of you

1608
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:09,430
tell me what it is that your eyes see

1609
01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:11,830
i'd say he's about i'm not good at

1610
01:16:20,149 --> 01:16:17,830
three and a half foot tall

1611
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:20,159
he is a little people he's skinny but

1612
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:22,400
he's not

1613
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:25,040
he's still in proportion

1614
01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:26,960
although his arms are long

1615
01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:30,239
what was it the impression that you got

1616
01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:32,400
they can't really interfere

1617
01:16:36,149 --> 01:16:34,560
they ask me what i liked and what i

1618
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:36,159
didn't like and

1619
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:37,840
they asked me

1620
01:16:43,189 --> 01:16:40,640
how i felt about things

1621
01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:43,199
how i felt about

1622
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:44,960
other people and

1623
01:16:49,510 --> 01:16:47,440
how i felt about pain and

1624
01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:49,520
then they took me back to instances in

1625
01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:51,920
my life where i had these feelings and

1626
01:16:56,790 --> 01:16:53,840
that's not right

1627
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:56,800
it's not right to do that to people

1628
01:17:00,310 --> 01:16:58,320
they were just trying to learn as much

1629
01:17:01,910 --> 01:17:00,320
as they could

1630
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:01,920
they wouldn't tell me where my children

1631
01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:03,679
were

1632
01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:10,390
there's nothing going to be bothering

1633
01:17:13,189 --> 01:17:11,440
them

1634
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:13,199
they're perfectly safe

1635
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:14,880
there's no reason for you to feel this

1636
01:17:21,750 --> 01:17:19,830
one of the things

1637
01:17:25,750 --> 01:17:21,760
that's a pretty good earmark of

1638
01:17:28,470 --> 01:17:25,760
authenticity beyond any reasonable doubt

1639
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:28,480
is the welling up of a strong emotional

1640
01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:30,480
reaction during the time that a person

1641
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:32,080
is reliving

1642
01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:34,880
an experience under hypnosis

1643
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:36,800
the spontaneity

1644
01:17:41,510 --> 01:17:40,000
the emotional reaction the quick tears

1645
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:41,520
and terror

1646
01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:43,040
when you come across that sort of thing

1647
01:17:48,149 --> 01:17:46,080
is sometimes awe-inspiring when those

1648
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:48,159
strange beings started walking up to the

1649
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:49,520
car

1650
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:52,320
i was so terrified that even now when i

1651
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:55,440
think about it i wonder how i actually

1652
01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:58,719
lived through it to be able to see a ufo

1653
01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:00,640
close up

1654
01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:04,080
leaves one feeling very insignificant

1655
01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:06,080
my connection with the ufo phenomena has

1656
01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:08,480
certainly changed my outlook on life

1657
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,560
i i don't i feel much freer knowing that

1658
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:14,800
there's an infinite

1659
01:18:17,669 --> 01:18:16,640
expansion of knowledge and existence out

1660
01:18:19,270 --> 01:18:17,679
there that

1661
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:19,280
we aren't stuck with the limitations

1662
01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:21,120
that we think we thought articulated

1663
01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:22,960
words with the occupants and began an

1664
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:24,400
exchange of information that has

1665
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:26,880
continued on and is going on today still

1666
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:29,280
going on today spacecraft flew out of

1667
01:18:33,189 --> 01:18:31,520
the blue and landed the occupant got out

1668
01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:33,199
and stood in the grass and sat on the

1669
01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:34,560
grass and talked to the man and they had

1670
01:18:39,750 --> 01:18:36,560
an exchange that lasted 20 minutes and

1671
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:39,760
there have been 116 contacts since then

1672
01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:42,480
case involved mr billy meyer in response

1673
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:43,760
to his question they said that they come

1674
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:45,440
from the pleiades they said that they

1675
01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:47,920
are here observing humanity

1676
01:18:52,709 --> 01:18:50,800
that they have information some of the

1677
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:52,719
information is of scientific nature and

1678
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:54,480
that he would be asked to pass it to

1679
01:18:58,470 --> 01:18:55,679
other people

1680
01:19:00,390 --> 01:18:58,480
they say that they are not gods they are

1681
01:19:02,390 --> 01:19:00,400
not superior people they are men just

1682
01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:02,400
like we are men and he's taken hundreds

1683
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:04,640
of photographs of the pleiadian

1684
01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:07,679
spacecraft operating in swiss airspace

1685
01:19:11,189 --> 01:19:09,040
this has all been checked by the

1686
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:11,199
computer the computer says that this

1687
01:19:17,430 --> 01:19:14,320
object is on the order of 20

1688
01:19:19,510 --> 01:19:17,440
feet in diameter and about 120 yards

1689
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:19,520
away it agrees with what the witness

1690
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:21,520
said about the diamond he says it's

1691
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:22,960
seven meters in diamond it's about 21

1692
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:25,600
feet he took messages he copied notes

1693
01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:28,000
from the pleiadians wrote them down over

1694
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:31,120
2 000 pages worth here's a book of 600

1695
01:19:34,149 --> 01:19:32,640
pages that i have translated into

1696
01:19:40,790 --> 01:19:34,159
english so far and this represents

1697
01:19:45,229 --> 01:19:42,870
we have no case on record with that

1698
01:19:48,550 --> 01:19:45,239
volume of information delivered by

1699
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:48,560
extraterrestrial contacts to a contactee

1700
01:19:52,390 --> 01:19:50,480
a ufo contactee

1701
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:52,400
and the information in there is just

1702
01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:54,800
staggering just phenomenal

1703
01:19:58,550 --> 01:19:56,800
the information covers technical and

1704
01:20:00,229 --> 01:19:58,560
scientific data as best they can explain

1705
01:20:02,390 --> 01:20:00,239
it to us in terms of the words that we

1706
01:20:04,870 --> 01:20:02,400
use in our technology it gets into

1707
01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:04,880
spiritual problems spiritual development

1708
01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:07,440
of man and our relationship to deity

1709
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:10,480
it has it describes uh other existences

1710
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:13,120
in space other human beings living in

1711
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:15,120
other planetary environments they're

1712
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:17,520
here because they're concerned about us

1713
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:19,120
their younger brothers

1714
01:20:23,270 --> 01:20:21,360
our technical potentials have exceeded

1715
01:20:25,270 --> 01:20:23,280
our spiritual capability of handling the

1716
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:25,280
information and we are now in a position

1717
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:27,280
where we can destroy ourselves and we

1718
01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:29,440
don't have a spiritual development to

1719
01:20:34,070 --> 01:20:31,920
prevent it and they will because of this

1720
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:34,080
we have become a laboratory experiment

1721
01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:35,440
they are waiting to see what we are

1722
01:20:39,030 --> 01:20:37,199
going to do as a matter of fact

1723
01:20:40,550 --> 01:20:39,040
they don't see us solving the problem

1724
01:20:42,709 --> 01:20:40,560
they see us as a

1725
01:20:46,310 --> 01:20:42,719
an insane society rushing headlong to

1726
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:46,320
destruction and that only a a change of

1727
01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:49,280
mass mind on a mass scale can influence

1728
01:20:51,830 --> 01:20:50,080
it

1729
01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:51,840
and they don't see this happening

1730
01:20:56,850 --> 01:20:53,679
and that's staggering because it's us

1731
01:21:03,350 --> 01:20:56,860
that's involved

1732
01:21:04,229 --> 01:21:03,360
[Music]

1733
01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:04,239
now

1734
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:06,159
in the 1980s

1735
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:08,320
with growing public interest and

1736
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:11,199
acceptance of extraterrestrials

1737
01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:13,600
it is hoped that present and future

1738
01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:16,560
administrations will be more honest and

1739
01:21:25,060 --> 01:21:19,040
forthright in releasing information